This was probably countered by him having to protect Palpatine. Galen was a quasi-Jedi and a hell of a lot stronger than Luke in ROTJ and stronger than Obi-Wan. Because maaaan, people really feared him. Can it be questioned that Galen Marek was stronger than Vader? Definitely one of the more favorite characters of the Legendary universe, and easily one of Vader's best apprentices,… He also naturally had an arrogant flair that exacerbated the problems. (3) Darth Sidious: could arguably stalemate Yoda or even beat him, especially by the time of ROTJ and DE. Darth Vader has been named the best Star Wars villain of all time in a new RadioTimes.com poll which saw over 10,000 votes cast as fans picked their favourite baddie from a galaxy far, far away. And just because Luke fought a "stronger" Vader doesn't mean he's stronger than Ahoska. George lucas himself said that if it werent for vader's suit, he would've been twice as powerful as palpatine, he lost so many midichlorians when he fell into the lava pit, from 27000 per cell to 13500, even so he is still more powerful than a handful of jedi and sith. So it follows. Anakin > Emperor. Maybe Anakin could've been stronger if he'd just beaten Obi-Wan (or fled unscathed). With the home release of the final film in the Skywalker saga this week, Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker, we’ve been thinking about two of the saga’s greatest Jedi.Jedi Master Obi-Wan Kenobi may have had the higher ground on Mustafar, but does that mean he was more powerful than his Padawan Anakin Skywalker? In a way, though, I wonder if Anakin's ultimate flaw became his biggest strength. It was this relationship what would ultimately be his demise, as then-senator Palpatine (actually Darth Sidious) manipulated Anakin into betraying the Jedi and becoming his new apprentice, Darth Vader. I'd say Anakin (potential) = Vader (potential) > > Anakin (RotS) = Anakin (RotS) ~ Vader (suit). Not Padmé, but her handmaiden Sabé. Its also an ancient technique that Vader apparently never discovered despite that being his main justification to join the dark side. Darth Sidious / Emperor Palpatine (with Kyber Crystal) = 20,500. The Jedi tend to favour more acrobatic styles, but Vader's suit has a lot of bulk and deadweight, slowing Vader down. Vader's suit inhibited his prior combat style. (2) Anakin Skywalker: said to be on Yoda and Palpatine’s tier, according to George Lucas. Well Anakin was conceived by the force w/ stronger potential than even Yoda and spent years honing his abilities and he never became as strong as Rey. In the first issue, he meets a shadow of his past. From what we saw in the video his rage wasn't prompted. He seemed to be a lot more advanced than Vader. The Jedi is much stronger than he is, and he almost kills Vader. That being said, Darth Vader was sort of stated to be getting stronger from every step he took from Obi wan and that he was even stronger than Anakin. Human males can grow into their mid twenties, so the idea that Vader as he stands by the end of Episode 3 is taller than Anakin at the beginning of Episode 2 is perfectly reasonable. In Return of the Jedi, Anakin aka Darth Vader, defeats the emperor. Anakin was noticeably stronger than other Jedis his age and believed that his strength should be rewarded with a higher rank. In fact, in a particularly compelling storyline, it's revealed there was indeed a Jedi Master far more powerful than Darth Vader in the galaxy. TheNuisanceBird. Black armorweave and feats of strength weren't the only things that distinguished Darth Vader from Anakin Skywalker. He just lost 1 fight in a comic I believe but then he went back to kill that person. Anakin Skywalker grabs Darth Sidious, preparing to throw the Emperor to his death. (1) Grandmaster Luke: nuff said. Darth Vader may not have been stronger but he was smarter and … After the events of Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith, Darth Vader is thrust into his Sith training. And in the movies is very hard to appreciate that. Nobody is saying that Ahsoka isn't a good duelist in her own right, we're saying that Vader naturally improved. Anakin Skywalker was one of the most powerful Jedi who ever lived. Yoda = 17,700. (As the notion that his potential was halved is now EU). If this is true, no one would have a stronger tie to them than Darth Vader. In truth, the Jedi were cautious about giving such a young boy so much responsibility. Palpatine once told Yoda that Anakin "will become more powerful than either of us". Anakin Skywalker is roughly nineteen at the beginning of Episode 2 and roughly 24 by the end of Episode 3. So anakin was more powerful force wise because he had 27000 midichlorians and luke had 15,000. Anakin > Emperor > Yoda. So, the first guy on our list has the highest midi-chlorian count ever recorded. What Ant said. Vader gets destroyed by everyone he comes into contact with. Also Anakin hadn't eat or slept for several days as noted in the ROTS novelization. The reason suit Vader seems stronger is because he acts smarter with the powers he has. Old Ben is probably stronger than Vader based purely on Vader's inability to overpower Tsui Choi. Anakin Skywalker / Darth Vader = 27,700. Vader was more skilled on Endor than he was during his fight with Ahsoka. I believe Anakin/Vader is way stronger, is just that the entire clone war Darth Vader and Order 66 Jedi Slayer was skipped. Meaning that Luke overpowered a much stronger Darth Vader. Yoda was the wisest and the most powerful Jedi, having lived for 900 years and trained Jedi for 800 years. Yoda could… Except Vader doesn't find answers, at least not the ones he's expecting. Probably Anakin was stronger but he was hotheaded and didn't think things through. Be that as it may, we all know that Anakin Skywalker was destined to bring balance to the force, but ultimately betrayed the Jedi and became Darth Vader. implies. Looking At Fights Between Luke Skywalker And Darth Vader The skirmishes that happened between Luke and Anakin Skywalker speak volumes about their strength and power. Full potential Anakin would have crushed Sidious, Yoda, and everyone else. Kirak was not only a master in lightsaber combat, but also an exceptional mediator of the Force. After Mustafar, though, Palpatine concluded that Anakin will never reach his full potential. This is the only explanation as to why Yoda does not confront Vader or the Emperor (He knows he would lose), until he finds Luke, a Jedi powerful enough to defeat Vader and the Emperor. By becoming Darth Vader, he was able to get close enough to Palpatine that Palpatine never even imagined Vader betraying him to save Luke. ... Stronger than ROTJ Vader. Who is stronger than Darth Vader? Star Wars isn't DBZ. Had he not turned to the Dark Side, he would easily have become the most powerful Jedi the Order ever knew or would know. Vader knows Anakin Skywalker's wife was pregnant, and he knows she died because of information passed down to him by his new master, and so he heads out looking for answers. In the movies it is greatly implied that Anakin would eventually surpass Palpatine, he even said that to Yoda and Anakin said to Padme he was more powerful than Palpatine. Anakin > Yoda. Year later, Anakin fell in love with Padmé Amidala, although Jedi were prohibited to fall in love and exhibit such strong emotions. His first step is to obtain a crimson lightsaber, the signature weapon of the Sith. As you know, Anakin pounded Dooku's ass in, and the Count was able to meet Grievous's blows one-handed without significant strain, so Vader should be substantially stronger than Grievous. At the time, he had Vader completely at his mercy and could have killed him, but didn't. 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