Has anyone tried the Westminster hardback? I could conceivable make gizmo nozzle attachment to inject an adhesive in that area from the end, but just not that energetic for those things anymore!, and it may not pan out that well even with simulated mockup in card paper for trial runs. The coloring is actually a bluish silver in daylight, a somewhat translucent effect. 55,000 Cross References Concordance Glossary of King James Terms Schuyler Bible Maps . For example, page 720 contains Psalms 38-40. ESV Schuyler Treveris Holy Bible Dark green Goatskin Full Yapp. I have nothing but the highest praise for them in my two contacts via telephone. That which was to follow was meet for the ever increasing apostasy of Christianity up to the present day. This in each event would occur in a string of about 5 contiguous pages. KJV Schuyler Treveris Holy Bible Black Goatskin Full Yapp. The format that TBS has in common with the Schuyler will be wonderful for those who prefer a softer cover. Thanks for this review. It would force more of the research into other books or bibles but that usually happens anyways. After recieving the 2nd edition Scuyler, I am blown away at the steps they took to upgrade a classic to newer standards. Free delivery for many products. I have found the study helps, the references, the imbedded archaic dictionary, and alternative translations of Hebrew and Greek words very helpful. The TBS because of the paste off method is more sloppy in the cover hinge area due to the fact that the end pages will lift away some from the cover hinge areas. I dont want to be a curmudgeon that finds no good thing, but their are definite problems out there for almost every industry. Hi Jason. I originally bought most of these bibles with the intention of finding the ones that suit me best and selling or giving away the ones that dont. This longitudinal bulge starts to form when the front cover is folded up about 90 degrees from its rest position against the textblock (bible laying flat on the table), you can than lightly push against this bulge with your finger and readily ascertain that there is an air pocket or air gap developed on its underside (its puffy). Hi Mary. John has raised some valid points about current quality standards in publishing. A nice shade I think. Verse numbers would be even better, but that could get messy. All turned out well with this reconstructive, aesthetic surgery. Ive heard good things about their customer service and I know their goal is the highest quality possible. I REALLY love both of these Bibles. Concluded this was from the flexure while hand holding due to the very light embossing of this text. Other than that one badly, accordion style, creased page, there seems to be no evidence of any gutter cockling, just as typical as in the TBS Westminster edition. I agree with you about the overall size of the Westminster, although I certainly wouldnt mind if TBS and Schuyler eventually released a large print edition, but this is probably just wishful thinking on my part. The cover joint between the spine and front is still of a large radius and the left portion of the front cover stays lifted a little from the textblock. Cambridge uses a company in Belarus and for some editions Jongbloed, perhaps others, I dont know where for sure LCBP gets their textblocks, I dont think they are printing their own though I may be wrong. But, apparently technology has yet to advance to that level. Schuyler Publishing provided this Bible free for review. For now, I choose to huff and admire my 53BR and Mahogany KJV Schuyler (although the Schuylers dont have a scent like the goatskin on Allans IMO). Its the same paper as the TBS. Perhaps i wrote something that has offended someone, I hope not. I am especially thankful for Randy and his Bible Buying Guide, he is doing all of us a great service as well as honoring God in doing so. Rated 5 out of 5. by Rick . I know that there are other ministries and firms other than those I mentioned, and in the Christian Publishing environment, I have yet to encounter a scoundrel though some may exist. I really like my new 2nd generation Schuyler, but it sounds like youre looking for a longprimer. The Schuyler Canterbury looks VERY interesting. The embossing for the silver coloring on the cover front and spine seems shallow. The merits of the container only. All the rest of the bible pages, seem perfect, although it was only spot checked. Norm. This is a beautiful bible. 28 GSM Indopaque Paper. It is edge-lined and perimeter-stitched for the highest quality binding possible. Is it true the Schuyler Westminster is being discontinued? Various Helpful Characteristics of the Authorized Version This section includes information on the use of italics, Lord vs LORD, capitalizations, use of OT names in the NT, Thou and Ye (very informative). The unique design presents the text in a modified "reader" format where chapter and verse numbers are available in the margins, but the text is otherwise quite clean and uncluttered. I can see not any difference. Beautiful bible, you won't believe how great 125801670108 Heres is their website: http://evangelicalbible.com/shop/. I think the criticism on this thread has been respectful and should be helpful to all concerned, so where did this feeling that at least one of us is upset about what has been said come from? I have had contact with EV Bible, and found them to be very concerned about customer satisfaction. You can see the blue through the silver and it has a very fine spotty pattern. The KJV Schuyler Reference Bible takes a different approach to the problem of comprehension, sticking with pre-20th century design but incorporating features like archaic word lists and guides to thees and thous to make the job a little easier for modern day traditionalists. Or I may just request a refund. The Stridon is Schuyler's latest Bible design. On the other hand, Schuyler is a private business with employees who depend upon their jobs and the success of their bible sales. What they have done with the better blue ribbons, classy cover with gold inlay around the inner edge, and binding changes, has made this to be in my opinion, the best bible you can own. My plan was to get a second bible in verse by verse format to use for preaching and use the Clarion as my daily reading bible. I think that if I had problems as John described that the return of the bible would be the proper action. I do know though that regardless of what the source of our bibles, that relative to the quality of other kinds of products, their quality is quite good. $167.50. Schuyler KJV Reference The text is printed in two-column format with references on the outer and inner margins. Im having that very same problem. The Concord is nice bit doesnt open as well in goatskin. The thin gold bridges or has to span the crevasses in the goat skin texture as a good flat substrate is not provided due to the shallow text imprinting. I would hope that the leaders of each of these companies would use the information youve provided here to do an even better job. note, and in perfect harmony to the times, I ordered 3 TBS Westminster hardbacks in BLACK. Its perfect for the pulpit, but I do prefer carrying the KJV Reference or Concord. However I have been considering the Prof. Horner Bible Reading plan and I really like his theory of getting very comfortable or imprinting one bible to help memorize and access the scripture. There are 200,000 cross-references. Nevertheless, can one imagine the tears of joy and excitement if what we have today in the form of the Old and New Testaments, in the cheapest paperback conceivable, was available to the common saints and martyrs from the time of the first church to that of the printing press and afterwards!! Slightly smaller text size: 9.5 instead of 11 point font. This is the small area of liner material between the end of the hinge and the inside folded over edge of the cover. without subheadings, references, etc., but at the same time remains practical for Bible study. Line Matching. And, I understand that LCBP is a ministry, but in some cases TBS bibles are actually cheaper than the bibles from LCBP. I am also thankful to all of the others who have made comments on this blog. Heavier paper - 38 GSM Bible paper. After a few months I had to get the tape and glue out. Schuyler KJV Canterbury Bible. This makes them much more readable and usable. I believe it is directly related to the state of our society in general, and that applies to almost every aspect of it including the family. The bible is beautiful and a wonderful size. Translators to the Reader This is my favorite edition of this document. There also seems to be somewhat of a difference in price between what the customer pays for goatskin vs. calfskin. I appreciate the review and all the pictures. And, I have been to websites that sell goatskin hides at retail and the hides are not cheap. If you have not received a notification, we are still waiting for the shipment to arrive. That is exactly what I was seeing from the photos. You really cant beat Schuyler 2nd generation with any bible out there. Schuyler Bibles establishes a new level of quality in Bible binding. !, I am disappointed, but somewhat numb to it all, so no big deal, but feel it all merits mentioning. I had not really considered anything besides a reference addition. I have a Clarion, Concord, Schuyler, Allan wide margin, longprimer 52, 53, and 63. Disappointing yes, but not enough of a deal breaker to bother with a return, maybe? Im just thankful that we have available to us the high quality that we have both in products and in service. The Schuyler Quentel is on its way to occupying a similar position as the new ESV Quentel joins the line-up. The spine has HOLY BIBLE, KING JAMES VERSION, and the Schuyler logo printed in silver. Rated 5 out of 5. by Landon Leslie My only complaint is there is no index to maps. Let us all pray that the forces that want to suppress the Word of God not be allowed to prosper in this country. Like you, I had also noticed the light impression of the imprinting on the outside of the bible, the shortness of the tail bands, and the ribbon markers could certainly do with some repositioning. 3. The front cover on the Schuyler due to the LARGE hinge radius will not lay as flat against the text block as it will the on TBS, nor as it does as on the Allan Longprimer or Clarendon. The only thing Im curious about is their high shipping rates when an order exceeds the $200 dollar level because in my case all shipments (expedited service) have been by USPS Priority Mail which is a flat rate with a quite high weight allowance. Evangelical Bibles customer service was exemplary as usual! What can we say when we compare our lives to theirs and why we are blessed with so much in our freedom of worship, knowledge of His Word, in the midst of great apostasy and moral depravity? Noticed just a wee bit of the same condition on the bottom attachment, not really requiring treatment, but as a possible preventive measure did the same there so as not to have occasion?? One thing not mentioned previously was that there was a section of about 2 to 2.5 inches on the cover flange that was narrower than usual. I love your idea of a large print text with dictionary in the back. At worse, if they consider this a normal craftsmanship variation, most likely will return it regardless of a restocking fee. Double Column, Verse-by-Verse format Single Column, Verse-by-Verse format for Psalms Ornamental Drop Caps If I had those answers, I would imagine that there would be literally thousands willing to pay to consult with me. $170.00 + $5.05 shipping. 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I found the LCBP Thompson Chain Reference too soft for me as well, that one is going out for re-binding in stiffer calfskin for the reasons I listed. Features: - Calfskin Leather cover - 200,000+ Cross references - Black text throughout - Quality sewn binding - 4 Ribbon Markers (2 Red, 2 Black) - Quality Bible paper Additional Contents: - Gift presentation page Schuyler Canterbury KJV, Full Yapp Black Goatskin Bible. There are secular forums where there is much wailing about the state of the nation and all that we need to do is get back to the principles of the founding fathers, rebellion, etc. It is to my mind almost incomprehensible that anyone could do this careless of a job in ribbon placement. The goatskin seems flawless in its general pattern. In regards to the comments about the thickness of the textblocks and the paper, the measurement (GSM) from what I understand pertains to weight. Schuyler Wide Margin KJV Bible. For the price it would be hard to beat and I wouldnt mind marking in it. Id like to be sure that the Schuyler Westminster includes the 32 pages of writing paper. Alec, John, Money, weights, and measures are keyed with superscript markers. Let me say that they have made these bibles better than the first. $270.00 + $17.10 shipping. It might be a while before they know for sure. I would also like to repeat, that in comparison with other retailers EVbible.com, for the most part, offers the best prices. Has minor 325551481136 I have the tbs westminster reference bible in calfskin. LSB Inside Column Reference Bible Review. This website uses cookies to improve your experience. It seems that there is an area of non-attachment between the two running the entire length of the hinge with a width of perhaps to 5/16 inch?? Allan Oxford wide margin- obviously for writing. I love those choices. On a more amusing!!! However my issue is that the verse numbers are so small that it is difficult to locate them while preaching. Unfortunately its not edge-lined goatskin, but that can be fixed . Just a thought. The KJV is considered one of the most influential and beautiful works of . While observing this, noticed a little gap at the head and foot of the textblock where there was a trace of separation between it and the bottom side of the liner flange towards the hinge. Any idea when they will release some details about the Canterbury font size and Bible size? I wish this were standard in Bible publishing. Its basic precept is quality and durability in every detail of the Bible. The format of the text is beautiful. I suspect it may last longer than the leather version. http://ourrabbijesus.com/articles/translation-debates-jewish-view/, Don, How blessed we are to live in a country where we have the bible in such a range of quality and quantity, easily obtained, often available for free. With that said, my wife has used the calfskin TBS as her daily Bible since I reviewed it in January of 2013. We appreciate your use of any of our links. The Long Primer is definitely a more chocolate brown color. Well I have waited a few days to give a proper opinion of the Schuyler KJV. Thanks Don. My concerns are font size for the first two options. I should have been more clear. I have adjusted pretty well to the TBS Westminister, and can use it while seated now. Free shipping. Take for instance if you were to purchase a TBS Westminster, but you decided you wanted to have it bound in Goatskin or even a different color binding, your purchase price and the costs of the rebind will exceed the costs of a Schuyler, and happy hunting finding someone to stitch the perimeter of the binding for you. EVBs customer service is outstandingly polite and courteous. The embossing for the gold impressions on the cover and spine are shallow. It has 6 raised ribs. There are products that have disappeared from the scene to be replaced by some other cheaper, less well designed and made substitute carrying the same brand and model number. I want to say it has been a blessing to read your comments here and elsewhere, there being more than the mere descriptive analysis coming forth. And there's also that author thing. Things I Buy. Free Thompson Chain-Reference Bible Webinar by Randy A Brown | Jun 28, 2022 | 0 . I have never seen such a pathetic example of the placement of ribbons in a bible. FOR SALE! The best selling Schuyler Canterbury KJV Bible is now available in a Wide Margin format! TYNDALE SELECT NLT Reference Bible (Black Calfskin Leather) Very Rare - $214.73. I dont know where things are going, it seems all, workers, management, customers, and clerks cannot bear the prospect of having to listen to their own thoughts. Gold, Diamonds, Firearms, Coins. As you can see in my brief review above. It has a modern digital 9.6 font in black letter and it is one of the best fonts for reading that Ive seen in a KJV. Ill let it go for a hreat deal. Funny thing is; I found a use for all but the Longprimer 63. $35.00 + $4.35 shipping. It is wonderful that it is not only beautiful, but easy to use, read and contains so many helpful features. SCHUYLER NASB PERSONAL Size Quentel (Psl028578) - EUR 136,14. Basic Features: Features: Cantara Goatskin (Antique Mahogany, Black, Navy Blue and Firebrick Red) Leather lined Art-Gilt Edging (red under gold) Perimeter Stitching (along perimeter of the Bible for added strength) 1728 pages Cross references Black text throughout - a jpg of the interior Quality sewn binding The current train of thought is that it would be thinner, but nothings set in stone yet. These cookies will be stored in your browser only with your consent. The Navy color shows some blue in direct sunlight, becoming more darker in shade, and indoors even still darker. Free shipping for many products! The drop caps are decorative, and the color of the ink is easy on the eyes. Anyone who in any way promotes the Gospel is in my opinion doing a good thing. Rated 5 out of 5. by Rick . to repeat at a later date. The Cambridge KJV Topaz Reference Edition Bible echoes the beauty and clarity of the classic Bible settings of yesteryear. Wish the liner was the same color as the cover or at least a complimentary color. No, they are not as well made as was common 50-80 years ago, but we must remember only the very well made have survived, there was some rather shoddy material and labor used those many years ago as well. Commentary here is simply the tightly focused and measure of physical workmanship. It might end up being my preaching and carry Bible. Anyway some great work for $98 shipped according to the receipt I found in the bible when it arrived. Yes it could be better, but it could be a whole lot worse. God bless all of you. Im sure theyll have to know by the end of the year in order to get everything ready for publication next year. I do like the Longprimer, but I find the notes and references in this one to be more useful and the sharp text is amazing even for the references and notes indicators. Glory and Honour to Our Lord and Saviour, It is my understanding the Old and New Testaments were written by 40 Jewish men through the inspiration and power of GOD. There is another Bible coming out that I might recommend in place of the KJV Quentel for your purposes. Between the Concord and the KJV Reference, I find the Concord font to be more comfortable to read from the pulpit or in dimmer light. Suffice to say, my batting average is not doing well lately! Received my replacement Schuyler KJV in black goatskin. You will be notified by email the day your Bible ships out of our facility. This category only includes cookies that ensures basic functionalities and security features of the website. Last time was in the 1986-1988 era! It is very soft and the grain is pronounced. There is more show-through than I would like, but its only really noticeable in bright lighting. Designed by Elegant Themes | Powered by WordPress. Blessings Mr. Brown. Much craftsmanship and artistry goes into the design and quality of the Schuyler brand. Schuyler has answered in two ways. I am coming to a tentative conclusion that most real, practical needs can be adequately covered with ones choice of the TBS Westminster, Windsor, LCBP Cameo or one of their hand sized editions and one will not need to feel of having missed anything, but still have a quality choice and variety of good to excellent text blocks and durable covers with the obvious far cheaper prices. The brown leather of my Schuyler is the most unique shade I have ever had, yet it is elegant and thick. I dont know what the solution will be, only time and the market will correct the situation. There are no creases on the first bible paper page either. It doesnt have note pages or goatskin, but it still has great binding, lies flat, and has the best readability for preaching in my opinion. The Schuyler Treveris, named for the British printer Peter Treveris from the 1400-1500's, is a new Bible that was designed primarily to be a reader. The Quentel KJV whenever it comes out will have a larger font but then we get into the other concern. Every edition features Full yapps Page size: 4.7 x 7.1 x 1 (120 mm x 180 mm x 28 mm) 28 GSM Paper Font: 8.5 pt. Schuyler Canterbury KJV This is a major ground breaking design. Schuyler Wide Margin KJV Bible. Hi Stephanie. The New Pilgrim Bible, KJV Paperback - October 9, 2003 by E. Schuyler English (Editor) 1 rating See all formats and editions Paperback $239.99 1 New from $239.99 The Pilgrim Bible, first published in 1948 by Oxford University Press, was designed to help young people learn about their faith. Since the text blocks are the same, and the TBS cover is quite adequate other than mentioned above, you can buy three of them for one of the Schuyler; a not insignificant consideration. Buy one Schuyler and the shipping (USPS) is $17.50, buy two and the shipping is a whopping $50, even factoring in the modest cost of insurance. The references and notes make the Schuyler KJV Reference Bible a great study Bible by giving you tools to define words and compare Scripture with Scripture. $177.00 + $5.05 shipping. I contributed absolutely nothing, although at one time I believed I did. Thank God for firms like EVB, Alans Cambridge, etc. They seemed rather lifeless to me. I dont have a problem with constructive criticism or an issue with someone comparing similar products manufactured by different companies, but in this case I thought it was unfair to compare the pricing. I will make my position clear in the hope that it may somehow smooth out any upset if indeed there is any. The Treveris is a unique typesetting from Schuyler that seeks to give the Bible reader a format that is free of human commentary, i.e. http://thefoolishgalatian.wordpress.com/2010/05/06/interview-with-paul-cline-of-evangelicalbible-com/. For instance, I believe it was Jongbloed in the Netherlands that printed and bound the Schuyler Westminster; they also print and bind Cambridge bibles, the new Omega bible by Crossway and if Im not mistaken certain bibles from TBS, maybe even the TBS Westminster? Today, more than 400 years since its initial publication, the bestselling King James Version Bible continues to inspire, encourage, and strengthen people from all walks of life. The first bible page has some severe MULTIPLE creases (think accordion) starting from the gutter radiating in a circular path towards the top and bottom edges of the page for a couple inches from the gutter. Hi Norm. Cambridge KJV Concord Reference Bible, Dark Blue Goatskin-RED Letter, Full Yapp. KJV Giant Print Center-Column Reference Bible - Premier Collection - Brown Goatskin Leather $189.99 $108.50. Integrity of work does matter. Another thing noticed, before any action was taken, was when hand holding the bible, the front joint of the cover formed a rib- like bulge along its length, but such was completely absent on the bottom joint. Something a visitor might mistake for shallowness. Both LCBP and TBS are ministries. KJVER (King James Version Easy Reader) MEV (Modern English Version) Na - Ni. Its very readable even with the 4 columns on each page, and the cover is just amazing. KJV Reference Bibles Wide Margin Bibles Binding Brand Color Font Size Thumb-Index Words Of Christ In Red Price Other Sort By: KJV Classic Wide Margin Study Bible (With C.I. The effect of quality workmanship in this particular concern, as executed properly by Allan and LCBP is that the liner up to the start of the hinge is firmly anchored and is positioned quite close to the adjacent corner of the textblock. Its great to hear that you like it. I see a number of stress points on the inside pasted covers and expect they will eventually pull away. To my knowledge there has been at least 2 runs of the Westminster textblock: 3M/05/12 and 10.5M/01/13 (this one) from examples that I own. Where to buy: EvangelicalBible.com Schuyler KJV Reference Bible. The #1 Source for King James Version Bibles "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." - John 1:1. I have no complaints in that department and a vast improvement over the navy blue example. The top of the page contains summaries of the main point of that page. Did not realize what was the cause of the bulge until at last. What effect this has on small businesses like Schuyler/EV Bible I cant say as I dont know how many give one time love offerings or regular tithes to the ministries. Schuyler Bibles establishes a new level of quality in Bible binding.